Is that allowed/legal?
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grazzc

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I have just been browsing through the new members and noticed a couple of new models, one 16 and one 14 who are advertising their levels at lingerie. Technically, I know the 16 year old is legally above the age of consent, but I was under the impression new laws were in place to make 18 the new age for any kind of "erotic" photography.

Surely there ought to be some kind of stipulation requiring proof of age perhaps to allow members to specify certain levels - ie lingerie, topless and nude? Perhaps a suggestion for an improvement/modification to the site. Im aware it would require some additional administrative management.

Joshwoodcockphotography

2011-11-02 13:58 | | Report Post | Quote
Hi

its a bit of a gray area however as long as the lingerie is the subject of the photograph it is by law allowed, bt it must not be considered "indecent"

but i wouldnt shoot under 18 in lingerie....

j

grazzc

2011-11-02 14:03 | | Report Post | Quote
It might be legally alright, but i certainly dont think it is morally right.

Joshwoodcockphotography

2011-11-02 14:23 | | Report Post | Quote
Yes as far as i am aware the law is there to allow things like swimware shots on a beech (a child playing in arm bands) so these can be use in a catalog however as always it usually results in certain photographers pushing the limits...

j

James

2011-11-02 19:34 | | Report Post | Quote
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Hi,

Lingerie should not be showing for anyone under the age of 18. I will look into it, and make sure it doesn't happen again in future.

Thank you for pointing this out,

Regards,

James

clickgotcha

2011-11-22 10:57 | | Report Post | Quote
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I find it strange that someone can see 16 and 17 years olds modelling lingerie as "morally wrong".

If they want to do it why not, they are legally allowed to do much more than stand in front of a camera in their undies.

Perfectpink

2011-11-22 12:08 | | Report Post | Quote
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And the law is as clear as mud. You are not allowed to take "an overtly sexual image of a minor". Do you want to be the test case in court..............?

our man flint

2011-11-22 12:25 | | Report Post | Quote
A very contentious issue here,but nonetheless for me personally it's a definate no go.
I would not feel at all comfortable,even more so as the Dad of two teenage daughters.
I expect an overwhelming majority verdict on this one.
Regards Wayne.

storm64

2011-11-22 13:21 | | Report Post | Quote
And for anyone who might be thinking of shooting a under 18 at any level....surely you would ask for a chaperone to be present-not just in the building-but in the room.----COMMON SENSE

clickgotcha

2011-11-22 13:44 | | Report Post | Quote
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Quoting Perfectpink from post 7



Errm, No, I have no intention of working with anyone under 18. I was referring to the post that said it was "morally wrong".


Raw Image Photography

2011-11-23 1:49 | | Report Post | Quote

As has been previously state it is perfectly ok (legally) to shoot an under 18 in lingerie / swimwear. After all these items have to be able to be advertised / sold / seen on in store POS, catalogues and online.

The issue is not the age of the model or the item they are wearing - it is more the way the picture is taken and how the model is portrayed (as could be said of any image).

I very rarely, i think possibly 2-3 times at most in the past, work with under 18's for any kind of shoot (usually fashion / casual). An would not even contemplate doing so unless the parents were spoken to personally by myself, written permission given and an authorised chaperone present at any shoot (preferably the mother). I would even go as far as having an independent person there too. Maybe that's a bit belt and braces, but better that way then the alternative.

Thankfully this is not my area (under 18 lingerie shoots) so i can avoid the whirlwind involved.

grazzc

2011-11-23 2:09 | | Report Post | Quote
Perhaps morally wrong isn't the right way to describe what I was trying to convey. Ethically dubious? Besides when has whether something is legal or not prevented the press from mounting a witch hunt? Being labelled a paedo, rightly or wrongly would ruin your life in many many ways. That kind of mud sticks.

clickgotcha

2011-11-23 9:30 | | Report Post | Quote
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What exactly does the word "peado" belong in this conversation? Do you even know the meaning of the word?




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